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tie flyer 
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Posted on: Aug. 10 2010,20:25 |
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Really keen to hit the tongariro in the next couple weeks and my wife is also keen but she can't realy deal with casting the usual tongariro bombs and indicators. She's very handy with the 6wt and if she can fish the tongas with it my weekend will be so much more enjoyable!!!
And ideas/hints/advice for tackling the beast??
Cheers guys
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gobbog
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Posted on: Aug. 10 2010,21:20 |
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Go to the braided section below the bridge for some easy shallow water where bombs arent needed and is easily fishable on the 6 weight, can be a bit crowded however. Or just hit up one of the other rivers in the area that are better suited to a 6 e.g The Hine, Waitahanui, TT etc
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tie flyer
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Posted on: Aug. 10 2010,21:33 |
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Thanks for that. Grew up on the TT down heuheu parade. That's our Sunday river but the wife is keen to try the famous tongariro. Will try below the bridge thanks that didn't even cross my mind!!!
Cheers
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gobbog
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Posted on: Aug. 10 2010,22:38 |
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Yea just for clarification where i meant is not directly below SH1 bridge but downstream of the lower bridge pool where the river fans out
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tie flyer
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Posted on: Aug. 11 2010,07:54 |
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Yeah I realize that... Didn't think you would be telling me to go into the locals pool hahaha cheers mate
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jafa
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Posted on: Aug. 11 2010,13:28 |
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Interesting - last year I had a bit of a sore wrist so used my 6wt rod on the Tongariro, it seemd to handle the bombs no differently than my 8wt outfit (or maybe I am doing something wrong). So if your wife's issue is the heavy rod, why not try her 6wt can be used all over the big T.
However, if it is merely that your wife doesn't like the casting of bombs, whatever the rod weight (and there are plenty of men like that as well), there are still lots of options on the Tongariro. I would recommend pools such as Blue and Boulder reach up river, Cicada a bit further down, even Hydro, Breakfast and Judges pools - I have had success in each of these with nymphs lighter than bombs used by casting more up and into the shallower bits of the pools rather than across and into the deeper parts.
I'm sure there are others with a lot more experience who could give you moer specific information.
As an intersting aside, last year I looked at the weight of various nymphs I used on the Tongariro versus enjoyment factor. I weighed a whole lot of nymphs on the scientific scales at work:
Hare & Copper bug eye dble Tungsten - 2.30 gms
Tongariro bomb (4mm TBH, cooper wire) - 1.90gms
H&C my variant dblr BH size 12 - 1.10gmms
Copper John 3.3mm TG BH size 12 - 0.60gms
Copper John 3mm TG BH size 14 - 0.45gms
PT TG 2mm sizes 12,14 0.25 - 0.30gms
PT TG BH 2mm size 16 <0.20gms
Personally, I had found that the nymphs over 0.60grams were just not fun to cast. So I now tend to not bother with the really heavy nymphs as much and look more for water I can fish more enjoyably with "smaller" nymphs. Note, I suspect some will find even the Copper John 3.3mm TG BH a heavy fly.
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Posted on: Aug. 11 2010,14:38 |
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I'd definitely look at it as a plus. You can both fish different styles and cover a lot more water that way.
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Posted on: Aug. 11 2010,15:19 |
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After looking at the fish size last year I came home thinking I would like to try a 5 weight and much lighter Nymphs on the TT next time. I intend to take it with me next month and use if the conditions allow it - after all I use it on the Rangitata and Rakaia on some big water, sinking nymphs deep and likewise a heap of fast mountain rivers in the wind here.
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Tore
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Posted on: Aug. 11 2010,16:39 |
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(jafa @ Aug. 11 2010,11:28)
QUOTE Interesting - last year I had a bit of a sore wrist so used my 6wt rod on the Tongariro, it seemd to handle the bombs no differently than my 8wt outfit (or maybe I am doing something wrong). So if your wife's issue is the heavy rod, why not try her 6wt can be used all over the big T.
However, if it is merely that your wife doesn't like the casting of bombs, whatever the rod weight (and there are plenty of men like that as well), there are still lots of options on the Tongariro. I would recommend pools such as Blue and Boulder reach up river, Cicada a bit further down, even Hydro, Breakfast and Judges pools - I have had success in each of these with nymphs lighter than bombs used by casting more up and into the shallower bits of the pools rather than across and into the deeper parts.
I'm sure there are others with a lot more experience who could give you moer specific information.
As an intersting aside, last year I looked at the weight of various nymphs I used on the Tongariro versus enjoyment factor. I weighed a whole lot of nymphs on the scientific scales at work:
Hare & Copper bug eye dble Tungsten - 2.30 gms
Tongariro bomb (4mm TBH, cooper wire) - 1.90gms
H&C my variant dblr BH size 12 - 1.10gmms
Copper John 3.3mm TG BH size 12 - 0.60gms
Copper John 3mm TG BH size 14 - 0.45gms
PT TG 2mm sizes 12,14 0.25 - 0.30gms
PT TG BH 2mm size 16 <0.20gms
Personally, I had found that the nymphs over 0.60grams were just not fun to cast. So I now tend to not bother with the really heavy nymphs as much and look more for water I can fish more enjoyably with "smaller" nymphs. Note, I suspect some will find even the Copper John 3.3mm TG BH a heavy fly.
That post is as if I should have written it myself. Except I haven't weighed my nymphs yet  .
I too tend to do the same thing. Look for places where I can fish it like a smaller size river/stream with my 5wt and small tungstens.
Especially the way the river is now, I find heaving a heavy bomb on an 8wt and with half a chicken indicator is a bit of an overkill for 3lbs rainbows... 
I am absulotely no expert on that river, but I've still to blank it so must be doing something right.
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jafa
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Posted on: Aug. 11 2010,17:04 |
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Hare & Copper bug eye dble Tungsten - 2.30 gms
Tongariro bomb (4mm TBH, cooper wire) - 1.90gms
H&C my variant dblr BH size 12 - 1.10gmms
Copper John 3.3mm TG BH size 12 - 0.60gms
Copper John 3mm TG BH size 14 - 0.45gms
PT TG 2mm sizes 12,14 0.25 - 0.30gms
PT TG BH 2mm size 16 <0.20gms
My purpose in weighing the nymphs was more than curiosity. It seemed I had a lot of trouble (as well as not much enjoyment) in casting the bombs. The weighing confirmed what I expected - those bombs are A LOT heavier. I could probably plot a graph of the number of times a got hit on the back/neck/head vs the nymph weight as well.
However, up to 0.60gms, it is all pleasurable, at least for me. Chris Dore gave advice in another thread re elliptical casting to avoid this, but I haven't got around to mastering this as yet.
I guess what I am saying is that
1. there is a good reason why people don't like casting bombs
2. I suspect 0.60gms tungsten BH are a good enough compromise of maintaining pleasure with average (or less) casting ability, to get flies down in many areas rivers, even on the Tongariro.
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